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Who brought shame to the party?
SAM(LOS ANGELES)
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SAM(LOS ANGELES) Posted Thu 04 Sep, 2008 9:36 PM Quote
hey everyone, what did you guys think of the republican national convention so far? sarah palin introduced herself to the ppl of the usa yesterday, my opinion, politicians used to be able to hide their lies better! her speech was not only boring and redundant, but full of lies about her record. i can't wait to see what bull mccain tries to feed us tonight. for shame
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
ElspethOllie
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ElspethOllie Posted Thu 04 Sep, 2008 10:14 PM Quote
My main concern isn't with her daughter being pregnant and all. I mean, that's a family issue. I do take issue with the fact that she's telling us to respect her daughter's decision in all of this. Yet, if she takes office god forbid, she would take away my right to make the decision that her daughter was able to make.

Weak.

Jon Stewart is still the man
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
SAM(LOS ANGELES)
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SAM(LOS ANGELES) Posted Thu 04 Sep, 2008 10:21 PM Quote
Good point, I never really pay too much attention to their personal lives either, unless something they do at home contradicts somethings they want to do in office. To me, this is just another slap in the face to people who really care and know what's going on. i would ask "how stupid do they think we are?" but i already know the answer to that question
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
ElspethOllie
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ElspethOllie Posted Thu 04 Sep, 2008 10:51 PM Quote
side note, her kids name are kind of cool: Track, Trig, Bristol, Willow & Piper.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
SAM(LOS ANGELES)
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SAM(LOS ANGELES) Posted Thu 04 Sep, 2008 11:05 PM Quote
ElspethOllie wrote:
side note, her kids name are kind of cool: Track, Trig, Bristol, Willow & Piper.


Yeah, not bad, she gives bruce and demi a run for their money. Piper must be the one who's pregnant, am I right?
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
ElspethOllie
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ElspethOllie Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 12:01 AM Quote
SAM(LOS ANGELES) wrote:

Yeah, not bad, she gives bruce and demi a run for their money. Piper must be the one who's pregnant, am I right?


No, Bristol.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
SAM(LOS ANGELES)
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SAM(LOS ANGELES) Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 12:31 AM Quote
ElspethOllie wrote:
SAM(LOS ANGELES) wrote:

Yeah, not bad, she gives bruce and demi a run for their money. Piper must be the one who's pregnant, am I right?


No, Bristol.


Hey, how come we're not friends yet?...I'm gonna change that right now.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
Nikki
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Nikki Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 5:33 AM Quote
Hi Sam and Lauren,

I watched Sarah Palin's speech last night and just finished watching McCain's tonight. Palin isn't a bad speaker and she seems likeable on the surface, but her speech...what she actually had to say...and the way she said it, was aweful and totally missed the mark. All she did was use sarcastic attacks to get her point across and said next to nothing about her ticket's platform on the main issues facing this country and how they're going to change things. I find it interesting how Obama is the one who gets accused of not laying out a plan when he did an incredible job of that during his speech. I still don't really understand how the Republicans plan to get anything accomplished...even after listening to McCain ramble on tonight. Damn, he is so boring!! And very vague! Like I said earlier, I respect him for serving the country and going through all he did, but that doesn't mean he'll make a great President and he spent the majority of his speech talking about his war time. Yawn! The past is in the past. It's time to look forward!
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
ElspethOllie
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ElspethOllie Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 6:21 AM Quote
Nikki wrote:
All she did was use sarcastic attacks to get her point across and said next to nothing about her ticket's platform on the main issues facing this country and how they're going to change things. I find it interesting how Obama is the one who gets accused of not laying out a plan when he did an incredible job of that during his speech.


I know! When I listened to her speech she made one remark about how when everything else falls away, how Obama doesn't have a plan for the country. I was like, "Are you joking? His whole speech was a checklist of how he wanted to change the government? Were you asleep?

Nikki wrote:
The past is in the past. It's time to look forward!


Speaking of which, at one point Rudy Guliani said something about how no one mentioned 9/11 in their speeches at the DNC in Denver... wha? What does that have to do with anything? I'll say it again... WEAK.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
mili
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mili Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 6:39 AM Quote
ElspethOllie wrote:
My main concern isn't with her daughter being pregnant and all. I mean, that's a family issue. I do take issue with the fact that she's telling us to respect her daughter's decision in all of this. Yet, if she takes office god forbid, she would take away my right to make the decision that her daughter was able to make.

Weak.

Jon Stewart is still the man


I'm wondering if Bristol had a choice in this matter, an abortion would have been much worse for the campaign.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
ElspethOllie
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ElspethOllie Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 7:00 AM Quote
It's not so much the right to choose and abortion, just the right to choose, period. But yeah, I doubt an abortion would have been an option.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
mili
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mili Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 7:31 AM Quote
ElspethOllie wrote:
It's not so much the right to choose and abortion, just the right to choose, period. But yeah, I doubt an abortion would have been an option.


Then the amount of options were a wee bit limited…

I'm not saying that the abortion would've been a better option, or that she'd probably chosen it if she'd had a real choice in the matter. It's very much a personal decision, which I'm glad I didn't have to make at that age.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
Nikki
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Nikki Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 5:15 PM Quote
mili wrote:
ElspethOllie wrote:
It's not so much the right to choose and abortion, just the right to choose, period. But yeah, I doubt an abortion would have been an option.


Then the amount of options were a wee bit limited…

I'm not saying that the abortion would've been a better option, or that she'd probably chosen it if she'd had a real choice in the matter. It's very much a personal decision, which I'm glad I didn't have to make at that age.


It's not so much the choice of an abortion that's at issue here. The ironic part about the situation is that Sarah Palin doesn't believe that schools should teach sex education. She believes in abstinence only education. Maybe if she would have told her daughter about safe sex and responsibility instead of just saying "don't do it," her 17-year-old daughter might not be pregnant.

 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
Nikki
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Nikki Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 5:25 PM Quote
ElspethOllie wrote:


Speaking of which, at one point Rudy Guliani said something about how no one mentioned 9/11 in their speeches at the DNC in Denver... wha? What does that have to do with anything? I'll say it again... WEAK.


Yes! I had the exact same reaction! I was like "Are you serious???" No one will ever forget Sept. 11th and the way it changed this country, but what is mentioning it in a speech seven years later going to do?? The only reason Rudy Guliani mentions it is because that tragedy is the only reason he's a popular politician. He just happened to be mayor of NYC when it happened. He didn't do anything extraordinary. Any other person in that position would have done the same. He's riding on that tragedy to stay in the public eye. WEAK is right.
 
Re: Who brought shame to the party?
mili
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mili Posted Fri 05 Sep, 2008 5:36 PM Quote
Nikki wrote:


It's not so much the choice of an abortion that's at issue here. The ironic part about the situation is that Sarah Palin doesn't believe that schools should teach sex education. She believe in abstinence only education. Maybe if she would have told her daughter about safe sex and responsibility instead of just saying "don't do it," her 17-year-old daughter might not be pregnant.



I thought it was something like that.
My husband just read me a list of things Palin supports, dreadful! Shooting wolves from an airplane, doesn't accept that polar bears are endangered…

"She has also opposed the federal listing of the polar bear as an endangered species. She is a promoter of aerial hunting, in which wolves and bears are shot unsportingly from airplanes. She offered a bounty of $150 a foreleg to hunters who shot more wolves."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/04/earthlog104.xml
 
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