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20 is a masterpiece ........
81
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81 Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 12:16 AM Quote
I don't understand the words because I am Italian, however it is a masterpiece. Why, why, why 20 is not in any album? Fraaaaaan, please answer me! Ciao
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
damon
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damon Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 6:37 PM Quote
in the man who is included as a hidden track afert the slide show, about minute 7:00 starts blue flashing light, then 20, then only molly knows,,,,

but in some countries when they edit the album they don't include the hidden tracks, for example in mexico the invisible band doens't include any, and i know there's one, i don't remember wich,,,,

cheers
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
BenFilbert
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BenFilbert Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 7:41 PM Quote
It's not on my version of The Man Who. And I have no extra songs on The Invisible Band but I do have all of them.
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
81
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81 Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 7:49 PM Quote
20 in The Man Who!!! What?????
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
Nikki
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Nikki Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:00 PM Quote
BenFilbert wrote:
It's not on my version of The Man Who. And I have no extra songs on The Invisible Band but I do have all of them.


I only have "Blue Flashing Light" on my version of The Man Who. I was really surprised when WeirdMommy (Anne) told me her version had "20" and "Only Molly Knows" a while back when we were all debating over the definition of a B-Side vs. Hidden Track. But wait, some of you also have a hidden track on The Invisible Band?!? Mine doesn't have any. Which song(s)?
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
BenFilbert
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BenFilbert Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:06 PM Quote
81 wrote:
20 in The Man Who!!! What?????


Well some versions. Not your version obviously. Although you could check. LOL
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
rebekah
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rebekah Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:07 PM Quote
hmm..i only have blue flashing light..
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
BenFilbert
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BenFilbert Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:09 PM Quote
Nikki wrote:
BenFilbert wrote:
It's not on my version of The Man Who. And I have no extra songs on The Invisible Band but I do have all of them.


I only have "Blue Flashing Light" on my version of The Man Who. I was really surprised when WeirdMommy (Anne) told me her version had "20" and "Only Molly Knows" a while back when we were all debating over the definition of a B-Side vs. Hidden Track. But wait, some of you also have a hidden track on The Invisible Band?!? Mine doesn't have any. Which song(s)?


You've got the same versions as me. :) 14 songs on my version of The Boy. Don't like hidden tracks. Like the songs, just not the way they're on the album.
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
the boy with a cryptic name
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the boy with a cryptic name Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:17 PM Quote
Time to roll out the travis.ography links again: :)
The Man Who
The Invisible Band

I believe it's only on the US version that 20 is a b-side, and it evidently wasn't planned to be on the album. I wouldn't want it to be really, TMW has such a great ambience, and I don't think it fits, it's too jaunty and acoustic and bouncy - it would have had to be a hidden track, but it doesn't deserve that. I think title of best b-side is better than being an average album track.
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
Tonie
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Tonie Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:20 PM Quote
I thought that BFL was only on the UK release of TMW, but that clearly is wrong. I've certainly only known 20 as a b-side.

To answer the original question, it's a rites of passage song. All about being misunderstood as a teenager.

Even tho that time has long past for me, and I have 2 teenaged kids of my own, 20 has always given me chills. It's stunning, especially live.
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
the boy with a cryptic name
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the boy with a cryptic name Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:24 PM Quote
BenFilbert wrote:

Don't like hidden tracks. Like the songs, just not the way they're on the album.


Yeah, exactly. I believe in album's being designed to be played all the way through and seen as one piece of work. Bonus tracks just spoil the flow, like chocolate would spoil a perfect roast dinner despite it being nice on its own.
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
damon
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damon Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 8:40 PM Quote
it's my pleasure to share only with 100 people the following link to download the file wich is the original from my the man who CD,,,
again i don't know why it would be added in one country and in other one don't,,, the three songs are next to each other,,

http://download.yousendit.com/ABA2139564A3FCE9

you download it and let me know,,,
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
BenFilbert
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BenFilbert Posted Thu 29 May, 2008 9:34 PM Quote
the boy with a cryptic name wrote:
BenFilbert wrote:

Don't like hidden tracks. Like the songs, just not the way they're on the album.


Yeah, exactly. I believe in album's being designed to be played all the way through and seen as one piece of work. Bonus tracks just spoil the flow, like chocolate would spoil a perfect roast dinner despite it being nice on its own.


Exactly right. If it is good enough to be on an album it should be on it's own track. If it doesn't suit the album then wait until it does suit an album. Radiohead waited 10 years to put Nude on an album. That's how I feel anyway. I'd be disappointed if there is a hidden song after Before You Were Young (they've not mentioned another, but it wouldn't be secret then) because it is such a perfect end to the album. If they do have another song, put it before Before You Were Young or wait 'til album 7. :)
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
damon
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damon Posted Fri 30 May, 2008 10:33 PM Quote
did anybody download the song?? will be available only for one week and 100 downloads,,, hope someone enjoy it
 
Re: 20 is a masterpiece ........
Nikki
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Nikki Posted Thu 05 Jun, 2008 8:46 PM Quote
Tonie wrote:
I thought that BFL was only on the UK release of TMW, but that clearly is wrong. I've certainly only known 20 as a b-side.


I'm from the US and my copy of The Man Who has "BFL" as a hidden track. Also, travis.orgaphy lists "Ring Out The Bell" and "You Don't Know What I'm Like" as the extra tracks for The Invisible Band in the US...but mine doesn't have any. How did I get the UK version of both these albums in US stores? Or where these versions only offered for a limited time? Hmmm...
 
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