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Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 1:51 PM |
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BenFilbert Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 1:55 PM |
| Yes. |
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Scottish Dubliner Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:31 PM |
No. Hip hop has just as much value as any other genre of music, However I do have a problem with Jay Z as I strictly would not consider him Hip-hop, Hip-hop to me would be Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, that sorta stuff. not this 2nd rate generation "safe" gangsta rap.
There exsists a whole "snobbery" by "Rock" when it comes to rap and hip hop. Personally I think it might be a different talent but that does not make it any less worthy.
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Peculiar Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:32 PM |
| I think the fact that it's still not sold out proves that it is. It's not that it's of any less value it's just that it's not as popular as guitar music in the UK. |
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Scottish Dubliner Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:38 PM |
Peculiar wrote: I think the fact that it's still not sold out proves that it is. It's not that it's of any less value it's just that it's not as popular as guitar music in the UK.
I think the fact if you put a decent hip hop band, instead of Jay Z, on it would have sold out, that said however Glastonbury has been dying for some years now maybe it's time to call it a day. Highlights of the last few years ???
Johnny Cash, The English National Orchestra ??
bit of a boot in the balls for the so called "rock" stars.
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Ursina Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:39 PM |
| probably is cos Gladstonbury goers are not hip hoppers |
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Safe Side Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:39 PM |
| i think its great there tryin to mix it up a bit but i do think the headliners are weak Kings Of Leon are great and are just about at that level but to me The Verve where second rate in there day and are worse now i think its missing its huge draw like a REM or a Oasis. Hip-Hop im not a huge fan but i respect it but they should have probebly got a huge star like Kanye West Or Eminem. Jay-Z is famous but i dont think he has the universal appeal that artists like that do. |
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ElspethOllie Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:40 PM |
| I think Glastonbury can bring together all types of music. Example, Shirley Bassey played last year to tons of applause. And I do think Jay-Z qualifies as hip-hop. He's probably the best mc around right now. I'm not really a rap person, but he echoes the sentiments of early hip hop, and many of his songs do comment on modern society. |
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Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 2:51 PM |
I think its the choice thats wrong. Jay Z's fame and fortune has mostly come from America.
I agree with Dubz in relation as to what is called hip hop these days. More of an old school person myself De la Soul and the like and for the uk i think someone from that time might be a bigger draw.
Even though he wont ever say it , i think Eavis has panicked when Radiohead said no. |
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Lemon Grinner Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 3:19 PM |
I don't think it's suitable for headlining. I mean the main sorts of people that go to Glastonbury like guitar based sounds, I think if you were gonna have hip hop then you should put it on the other stage or lower down the bill, because it isn't going to attract as many people as a big rock band would.
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Scottish Dubliner Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 4:40 PM |
Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) wrote: I think its the choice thats wrong. Jay Z's fame and fortune has mostly come from America.
I agree with Dubz in relation as to what is called hip hop these days. More of an old school person myself De la Soul and the like and for the uk i think someone from that time might be a bigger draw.
Even though he wont ever say it , i think Eavis has panicked when Radiohead said no.
I agree, maybe someone a bit "crossover", not as radical as Public Enemy or the likes, more sorta De La Soul, Arrested Development, Jungle Brothers, Oui 3 type of thing ??
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Typing to Reach You Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 5:24 PM |
I'm not so sure about having hip hop at Glastonbury myself. It's not because hip hop isn't 'worthy' of the festival, but Glastonbury has always been chiefly a 'band' kind of thing - it's part of its brand image so to speak. If they dilute what the festival stands for by allowing any or all kinds of music, I think it starts to loose its appeal and its distinction from other music events.
But, that said, I know there have been plenty of acts at Glastonbury in the past that don't fit into the 'rock band' category. So I guess one or two hip hop acts wouldn't hurt too much so as to offer an alternative from what's typically on offer. |
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missmoo Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 6:16 PM |
| Hip hop! Glastonbury! Tis wrong! wrong I tell you! |
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Peewee Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 6:25 PM |
Yes!
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missmoo Posted Mon 14 Apr, 2008 6:28 PM |
NO! :) |
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