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Lemon Grinner Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 1:39 PM |
Lu122 wrote:
Anyway, I'm glad she kept the babies... Having an abortion would have been -in my opinion- a far worse decision.
Why do you think so? |
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Soulslug Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 4:03 PM |
| Holy shit. |
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Lu122 Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 8:13 PM |
Lemon Grinner wrote: Lu122 wrote:
Anyway, I'm glad she kept the babies... Having an abortion would have been -in my opinion- a far worse decision.
Why do you think so?
Because that would've been the easy way out. I don't know... I'm against abortion. It's a delicate subject and whether to have or not an abortion is a very personal decision to make.
But in my opinion, to have an abortion is to kill your baby, period. If you don't want to get pregnant, there are lots of birth control methods you can use. If you don't use them and get pregnant even though you don't want to, that's too bad but it's not the child's fault.
And I know there are other kind of situations like when a women is raped and ends up pregnant, and it's not her fault. But even then, I would never suggest having an abortion. It's her child too, and if she doesn't want the baby there's always someone who will welcome that baby if he/she is put up for adoption... |
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deebee Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 8:29 PM |
| What about the under-age sex issue? Kids at 14 & 15? Immaculate conception???? |
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Lu122 Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 8:42 PM |
Well, yes... that's terrible too. I honestly don't think it is safe nor wise nor healthy nor appropiate to start having sex so young. But it's a matter of education and how her parents brought her up. This case is just too much (?).
But maybe she's happy that way. And I do hope that she can eventually find happiness if she isn't happy now. Every kid is a blessing, they say, so she has been blessed a lot! |
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spid Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:25 PM |
What about rape victims or child abuse victims? Do they just have to suffer the consequences no matter what?
I have three kids and thank every day for them but if my 13 yr old was raped and got pregnant I would help her have an abortion if she wanted. CHildren need a loving home and looking at the child of the man who raped you can't be fun -and i suppose you could go down the adoption route but if your body is violated for a few minites why should you have to suffer another 9 months of violation, especially when pregnancy is very hard on such young bodies. Women/ young girls should have choices too.
Also reading though this thread has no-one thought that maybe a young girl like that didn't get given a choice to say no. SHe could have been so poor that that was the only way to get money (and economic response to her situation) or in an abusive relationship where she wasn't given choices (so possibly an emotional response) - choices of either consent or contraceptives. Having been in a very controlling relationship quite young i know how hard it can be a) to say no and b) to break out of it. I know this may not be the case with her but i don't see very many balanced statements about her. Sure blame everyone else as well, but try to see all sides of the picture before condeming her. |
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kiwi Posted Sat 23 Feb, 2008 10:31 PM |
Sweet god. What a silly girl!
She can't blame her religion for not using contraception if she's having sex before marriage....though she still should receive help, as she might have made the mistake, but punishing her through depriving her children is not cool, especially when what she's done isn't actually illegal. |
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sorry angel Posted Sun 24 Feb, 2008 1:50 AM |
spid wrote: What about rape victims or child abuse victims? Do they just have to suffer the consequences no matter what?
I have three kids and thank every day for them but if my 13 yr old was raped and got pregnant I would help her have an abortion if she wanted. CHildren need a loving home and looking at the child of the man who raped you can't be fun -and i suppose you could go down the adoption route but if your body is violated for a few minites why should you have to suffer another 9 months of violation, especially when pregnancy is very hard on such young bodies. Women/ young girls should have choices too.
Also reading though this thread has no-one thought that maybe a young girl like that didn't get given a choice to say no. SHe could have been so poor that that was the only way to get money (and economic response to her situation) or in an abusive relationship where she wasn't given choices (so possibly an emotional response) - choices of either consent or contraceptives. Having been in a very controlling relationship quite young i know how hard it can be a) to say no and b) to break out of it. I know this may not be the case with her but i don't see very many balanced statements about her. Sure blame everyone else as well, but try to see all sides of the picture before condeming her.
I Agree 100% and it does amaze me so many negative judgments listed in this thread about that girl when surely this story must be a lot more complicated that presented in the article.
Also the UK still has the highest amount of teenage pregnancies in Europe which seems to coincide with the articule I posted earlier linking thoses pregnancies with excessive alcool. |
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I Came in Through the Bathroom Window Posted Sun 24 Feb, 2008 4:01 AM |
spid wrote:
Also reading though this thread has no-one thought that maybe a young girl like that didn't get given a choice to say no. SHe could have been so poor that that was the only way to get money (and economic response to her situation) or in an abusive relationship where she wasn't given choices (so possibly an emotional response) - choices of either consent or contraceptives. Having been in a very controlling relationship quite young i know how hard it can be a) to say no and b) to break out of it. I know this may not be the case with her but i don't see very many balanced statements about her. Sure blame everyone else as well, but try to see all sides of the picture before condeming her.
There's a lot of that going on in Argentina, particularly in the poorest areas. There's a lot of "machoism" going on.
However, I think that after two pregancies at such a young age, an abortion wouldn't have been a bad option, considering she has no job to support her kids and the father left.
Sometimes it's better for a kid to not be born at all than to be born and live a miserable life. I'm pro abortion in some cases (such as raping). |
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