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ricv64
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ricv64 Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 1:58 PM Quote
Maybe a better example would be ,


Frans' guitar, the telecaster , is outta tune tonight .

you use the comma to break while discribing the noun
 
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baby faced woman
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baby faced woman Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 2:18 PM Quote
Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) wrote:
baby faced woman wrote:
After all....
Which sport do you like, tennis or soccer( football)?

This is the right sentence,huh? :)


Correct.


Thanks!
 
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Monica
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Monica Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:03 PM Quote
bara wrote:
next question:

when do i have to set a comma? i never understood this..

Neither do I. I put them as I do when I write in Spanish, and that involves that in 99% of cases I'm wrong :p
 
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Gladly (the cross-eyed bear)
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Gladly (the cross-eyed bear) Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:05 PM Quote
ricv64 wrote:
Maybe a better example would be ,


Frans' guitar, the telecaster , is outta tune tonight .

you use the comma to break while discribing the noun


Surely you mean describing :)
 
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Monica
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Monica Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:07 PM Quote
ricv64 wrote:
Maybe a better example would be ,


Frans' guitar, the telecaster , is outta tune tonight .

you use the comma to break while discribing the noun

We call that in Spanish "aposición", or in English, apposition ;)
 
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Moray
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Moray Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:10 PM Quote
Next challenge - explain the semi colon! It's a mystery where that goes! ;
 
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spid
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spid Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:15 PM Quote
MoraySwan wrote:
Next challenge - explain the semi colon! It's a mystery where that goes! ;


it goes on faces to make a winking eye!

(you're not really serious are you - cos i could explain but i think you have enough brain cells to know! and i think you're pulling my leg)
 
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la femme qui
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la femme qui Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 5:35 PM Quote
spid wrote:

it goes on faces to make a winking eye!

(you're not really serious are you - cos i could explain but i think you have enough brain cells to know! and i think you're pulling my leg)


*butts in*

I'd love it if you'd explain, I have no idea how to use them!
 
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spid
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spid Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 6:14 PM Quote
la femme qui wrote:
spid wrote:

it goes on faces to make a winking eye!

(you're not really serious are you - cos i could explain but i think you have enough brain cells to know! and i think you're pulling my leg)


*butts in*

I'd love it if you'd explain, I have no idea how to use them!


A semi-colon links two main ideas into one sentence that could otherwise have been two separate sentences (it takes the place of a connective/conjunction) each part of the sentence contain a verb i.e. it is a clause.

for example,
Sam is good at English; (but- the word missed out) Jenny is good at Maths.
or
Fran plays great guitar; Neil plays great drums (missing out the 'and')

ANy better?

BTW - i cahrge £30 per hour for consultative fees! - tee hee)
 
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Turtleneck
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Turtleneck Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 6:23 PM Quote
Since we're talking about language again, here's something I've observed lately. I've noticed the UK boardies say, "maths." I've never heard that before. It's just math in the US. I'm taking science, English, and math. Interesting. Also, I've seen "vacations" a lot, too. We'd only say that if were you taking more than one vacation. Every day I learn something new from this board.
 
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th74
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th74 Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 6:56 PM Quote
Turtleneck wrote:
Since we're talking about language again, here's something I've observed lately. I've noticed the UK boardies say, "maths." I've never heard that before. It's just math in the US. I'm taking science, English, and math. Interesting. Also, I've seen "vacations" a lot, too. We'd only say that if were you taking more than one vacation. Every day I learn something new from this board.


It is interesting. When talking to my UK friends, I noticed maths, too, and I always assumed it was shortening the word mathematics. And now I use the word holiday as much as I use vacation, describing the same thing.
 
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Nikki
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Nikki Posted Tue 15 Jan, 2008 8:27 PM Quote
spid wrote:
la femme qui wrote:
spid wrote:

it goes on faces to make a winking eye!

(you're not really serious are you - cos i could explain but i think you have enough brain cells to know! and i think you're pulling my leg)


*butts in*

I'd love it if you'd explain, I have no idea how to use them!


A semi-colon links two main ideas into one sentence that could otherwise have been two separate sentences (it takes the place of a connective/conjunction) each part of the sentence contain a verb i.e. it is a clause.

for example,
Sam is good at English; (but- the word missed out) Jenny is good at Maths.
or
Fran plays great guitar; Neil plays great drums (missing out the 'and')

ANy better?

BTW - i cahrge £30 per hour for consultative fees! - tee hee)


The semi-colon is also used in complex lists. For example:

Travis currently has five albums out, including Good Feeling, their rocking first album; The Man Who, the band's breakthrough album; The Invisible Band, with such hits as Sing and Side; 12 Memories, the band's darkest album to date; and The Boy With No Name, their newest work.

According to journalism's AP Style, the "and" at the end of the list replaces the need for a final comma or semi-colon in that list, but I believe it's needed in other writing styles, like when writing an essay or term paper. Isn't that correct?

For example:

"Fran, Dougie, Andy and Neil make up Travis." (acceptable in journalism)

VS.

"Fran, Dougie, Andy, and Neil make up Travis."
 
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la femme qui
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la femme qui Posted Wed 16 Jan, 2008 8:51 AM Quote
spid wrote:
A semi-colon links two main ideas into one sentence that could otherwise have been two separate sentences (it takes the place of a connective/conjunction) each part of the sentence contain a verb i.e. it is a clause.

for example,
Sam is good at English; (but- the word missed out) Jenny is good at Maths.
or
Fran plays great guitar; Neil plays great drums (missing out the 'and')

ANy better?

BTW - i cahrge £30 per hour for consultative fees! - tee hee)


Ahh thanks for clearing that up; I will now use semi-colons in every place that requires them! Oh, and since typing this reply took you (I'm guessing) forty seconds, I've sent a cheque for 33p your way:)


Nikki wrote:

The semi-colon is also used in complex lists. For example:

Travis currently has five albums out, including Good Feeling, their rocking first album; The Man Who, the band's breakthrough album; The Invisible Band, with such hits as Sing and Side; 12 Memories, the band's darkest album to date; and The Boy With No Name, their newest work.

According to journalism's AP Style, the "and" at the end of the list replaces the need for a final comma or semi-colon in that list, but I believe it's needed in other writing styles, like when writing an essay or term paper. Isn't that correct?

For example:

"Fran, Dougie, Andy and Neil make up Travis." (acceptable in journalism)

VS.

"Fran, Dougie, Andy, and Neil make up Travis."


Hmmm I think this is what we'd been taught at school... while making complex lists I'm usually too lazy and just go with commas...
 
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bara
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bara Posted Wed 16 Jan, 2008 9:19 AM Quote
th74 wrote:
Turtleneck wrote:
Since we're talking about language again, here's something I've observed lately. I've noticed the UK boardies say, "maths." I've never heard that before. It's just math in the US. I'm taking science, English, and math. Interesting. Also, I've seen "vacations" a lot, too. We'd only say that if were you taking more than one vacation. Every day I learn something new from this board.


It is interesting. When talking to my UK friends, I noticed maths, too, and I always assumed it was shortening the word mathematics. And now I use the word holiday as much as I use vacation, describing the same thing.


same as.

i recognized that some "british" words arent known in American. I sometimes have conversations in which i have to explain what a word means just because they come from Americs/UK..
 
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bara
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bara Posted Wed 16 Jan, 2008 9:22 AM Quote
thanks for all the help guys. i hope ill got the rules in my mind now forever.. :P

what about this:

I learne that this is right: "to have got"
but ive heard so many people just saying "i got.. blahblah"..
is that also right?
 
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