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PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Profesor
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Profesor Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 6:16 AM Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STH3R7tWYTE
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
RaZzZ
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RaZzZ Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 6:55 AM Quote
WTF!!!!

Is almost identical.
But i wanna think that is a casuality.

Fran tooks chords from wonderwall to Writing to Reach You, so it doesn´t matter
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
20462046
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20462046 Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 7:56 AM Quote
almost the same,maybe just coincidence
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
vampire_lover
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vampire_lover Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 8:44 AM Quote
Of coure, everything what's bad it's from Poland :/ I haven't heard Before you were young before but you're right - this songs are almost the same! Now I know why I don't like Feel :P

A i witam kolegę z Polski ;)
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Peewee
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Peewee Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 10:19 AM Quote
Yes I had heard about this already but blah I love the song!!!!!
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Peewee
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Peewee Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 10:19 AM Quote
Oh and I don't speak Polish.... what is that dude saying? Translation please? lol
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
OHMEATPIES
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OHMEATPIES Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 12:27 PM Quote
Gosh, I think this is too similar to be a coincidence. I mean, it's the same tempo, the same melody. When was the Polish song created?
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
vampire_lover
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vampire_lover Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 2:20 PM Quote
Peewee wrote:
Oh and I don't speak Polish.... what is that dude saying? Translation please? lol

Translation of this clip:

I invite you to compare two songs:


Feel 'Pokonaj siebie' and Travis 'Before You Were Young'


And I even don't mean which is better.


But aren't they SIMILAR?


....songs....


If you haven't heard any similarities don't get back to listen Travis song...


Translation of Feel's song:
Chcę, potrafię, wzniosę się / I want, I can, I'll rise
To naprawdę dobry dzień / It's a really good day
Jak w westernie jeden cel / Like in western one purpose

Hej, mówię sobie ''Siłę masz / Hey, I said to myself 'You've got power
i nie przegraj, wygraj, grasz, / and you don't lose, win, you play,
ale w pokonanie siebie!" / but in beating yourself!'

Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie /So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię .. / I'll prove...

Chcę, potrafię, jestem skałą / I want, I can, I'm a rock
Stać jak posąg, to za mało / Standing like statue is to less
Wolę ruszyć poza świat / I prefer go out of the world
Hej, nigdy więcej białych flag, / Hey, never more white flags

chociaż już bywało tak / Though before was like this
Wczoraj był ostatni raz / Yesterday was the last time

(Obiecuję sobie..) / I promise myself ...

Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie /So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię .. / I'll prove...

Chcę, potrafię, wzniosę się / I want, I can, I'll rise
To naprawdę dobry dzień / It's a really good day
Mam przed sobą jasny cel ! / I've got clear purpose in front of me!
(Jasny cel .. ) / Clear purpose ...

Hej, mówię sobie ''Siłę masz / Hey, I said to myself 'You've got power
i nie przegraj, wygraj, grasz, / and you don't lose, win, you play,
ale w pokonanie siebie!" / but in beating yourself!'

Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie / So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię, że można lepiej! / I'll prove it can be done better!
Pokonam więc siebie, pokonam siebie /So I'll beat myself, beat myself
Udowodnię .. / I'll prove...

Wyżej, mocniej, dalej .. / Higher, stronger, further...
Wyżej, mocniej, dalej .. / Higher, stronger, further...

OHMEATPIES wrote:
Gosh, I think this is too similar to be a coincidence. I mean, it's the same tempo, the same melody. When was the Polish song created?

I can't find when it have been written but it was written for the Olympics, and released in the middle of June.
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Mikko85
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Mikko85 Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 2:40 PM Quote
Nooooooooooooo. If this was written before BYWY, this is really bad. It's exactly the same. Sure, it's still a great song, but takes a bit away from a song I've been in love with for the past few days.
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
jesusaremus
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jesusaremus Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 3:39 PM Quote
Mikko85 wrote:
Nooooooooooooo. If this was written before BYWY, this is really bad. It's exactly the same. Sure, it's still a great song, but takes a bit away from a song I've been in love with for the past few days.


if that song was on june, they could plage from february concerts, some of them was running online, you know, then travis can prove they made it before ;)
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
rebekah
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rebekah Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 3:55 PM Quote
OMG! it is practically identical!
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Fran
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Fran Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 5:28 PM Quote
That's amazing!! However, the melody to Before You Were Young was written in 2003 when I was writing for 12 Mems but could never get the words. The words were written last december.
Checking shows it went on the EMI Poland youtube site in July. Before You Were Young was posted on youtube in February this year.
I think it's way too close to be coincidence also.
Thanks for flagging this. I will ask our publishers to look into it.
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
travisturkey
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travisturkey Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 5:36 PM Quote
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokonaj_siebie
Fran,
Apparently this was released on 24 czerwca 2008,which is-if the dictonary is not lying-24 June 2008.
I knew our Travis boys wouldn't steal anything from anybody 8-) hehe..
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
Mikko85
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Mikko85 Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 5:42 PM Quote
sounds like a few random Polish guys need their arses sued to me. More promotion money hehe.

Glad BYWY is a Travis 'original' - never thought for a minute they'd nick anything, but as we haven't seen the album sleeve songwriting credits yet, it could have been a loose cover/written by someone else like Under The Moonlight.

But surely it's too close to be a coincidence - sure they have access to Youtube in Poland.....someone needs their hard-drive confiscating methinks!
 
Re: PLAGIARISM in Poland!!! (song Before You Were Young)
BenFilbert
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BenFilbert Posted Sun 28 Sep, 2008 5:42 PM Quote
I still haven't heard this yet. I will later on tonight when I get on the computer. Seems like everyone thinks it is very similiar. Thanks for the info Fran. Before You Were Young is a great song! :)
 
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